Why do feminists think men have it so good everywhere in life?
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''Title IX forces collegiate programs to offer the same amount of scholarship money for both female and males. However, the number of male participants (mainly due to the size of a football squad) outnumbers the females. This has restricted the amount of male scholarships in other sports.''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/college_ath...
I thought a few feminists on here wanted substansive equality? Why do the feminists want substansive equality for military standards and the likes, but not for number of scholarships? Is this a case of hypocrisy?
''Colleges tend to spend more money on women's scholarships.''
http://chronicle.com/weekly/v46/i31/31a0...
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Your point about health is very fair. It is very dissappointing that the health of men is given so little funding compared to women's health. In 1998, more men died of cancer than women in Britain yet women's spending is many times higher than men's [ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/health/66368... ].
Your point about sports scholarships, however, is not quite right. There exists both men's divisions and women's divisions in sports. In some sports, the quality of the men's division can exceed the quality of the women's division yet both divisions still exist. Giving sports scholarships to "the best" does not really apply in this situation. Instead you must give them to the best males and the best females.
It is dissappointing that a law would be passed to protect women only when both men and women are affected.
'Proud ♥ Mary' statement that very few men are subjected to domestic violence is wrong. Current studies are actually showing that a woman is more likely to commit domestic violence than a man:
"Recent research carried out for the Marriage and Relationship Counselling Service (MRCS) found that women are more likely than men to perpetrate domestic violence. This report, based on a survey of 530 clients of MRCS, found that, where domestic violence occurs, mutual violence accounts for 33% of cases, female perpetrated violence accounts for 41% and male perpetrated violence for 26%." [ http://www.amen.ie ]
Further research on this is as follows:
Research on domestic violence
Ireland:
On Tuesday 5th July 2005 the National Crime Council (NCC), in association with the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI), published the first ever large scale study undertaken to give an overview of the nature, extent and impact of domestic abuse against women and men in intimate partner relationships in Ireland. Among the notable findings are:
- 15% of women and 6% of men suffer severe domestic abuse
- 29% of women and 26% of men suffer domestic abuse when severe and minor abuse are combined
- 13% of women and 13% of men suffer physical abuse
- 29% of women (1 in 3) and only 5% of men (1 in 20) report to the Gardaí
- 49% of admissions to women’s refuges are Travellers (according to the 2002 census Travellers account for just 0.6% of the entire population)
- Of those turned away from refuges, 46% were for reasons other than the refuges being full.
VERY SIGNIFICANT POINT FOLLOWS:
According to the Government Departments (Health and Justice) who have responsibilities in this area, the NCC study is the definitive piece of research on domestic violence in this country.
Other Irish research on domestic violence:
- The results of the NCC study relating to gender prevalence broadly reflect the findings of the three other two-sex studies carried out in this country (for ACCORD; MRCS and the Department of Health).
- The MRCS report (2001), based on a survey of 530 clients, found that, where domestic violence occurs, mutual violence accounts for 33% of cases, female perpetrated violence accounts for 41% and male perpetrated violence for 26%.
Similarly, the ACCORD research (2003), based on a survey of 1500 clients, found that women were perpetrators in 30% of domestic violence cases, men were perpetrators in 23% of cases and mutual violence accounted for 48%. An interesting feature of this study, which involved couples attending counseling, was that 84% of women and 74% of men agreed with their partner’s response to this question, suggesting that the self-reported prevalence is quite reliable.
I think women and men have it equally hard. Yes some individuals do have it easier than others. I am not feminist and I do not agree with most of what they say. Life is hard work for both women and men.. that is a fact.
Because feminists think the fact that they get pregnant and men dont entitels them to everything. And if an individual woman should not get pregnant, well, she could have gotten pregnant.
I'll try to address some of that, one male to another. Until title IX was passed womens atheletic scholarships was simply an after thought at many of the nations universities. It's kind of difficult to blame feminists for the ludicrous number of football scholarships offered by most division one schools. Many of the teams have players that will never see game playing time and may not actually appear on the bench in uniform until their senio game receiving a full scholarship. THIS situation has affected the number of male scholarships in other sports.
Another reason 'feminists' may not exactly feel equal is the existence yet today of salary diparity in many areas of corporate America. Equal pay for equal work and seniority really doesn't seem too much to ask in my opinion.
I may be a male, but I also consider myself a feminist. My wife and my daughters desere equal opportunities, just as anyone else does. Sadly specific legislation is sometimes required in order for this to happen.
As far as I know, feminists don't think ALL men have it so good everywhere in life, as you put it. Feminists are specifically interested in the problems of women and equality for women. This doesn't address the problems of individuals or the problems of men. Your links don't back up your assertions. And even though many men have serious problems, this doesn't mean that feminists caused these problems, don't care about these problems, or think men should ignore these problems. Feminists are simply addressing other problems.
I don't feel like writing an essay to address all these concerns, but I wanted to stop in and say hello. Also, don't you find that athletic scholarships are utterly ridiculous? I know Americans are obsessed with sports, but to let someone who had a D average in high school into a university because they can throw a football around is ludicrous. It also takes spots away from those with much better grades who couldn't quite make it into the particular school, or those who cannot afford it - uni in the US is notoriously unaffordable. So let's take a deep breath, stop arguing, and focus our attention on the fact that those scholarships would be better used for people who deserve to be in university, male or female.
EDIT: I see your point, but that wasn't the point I was making. Anyway, as far as this VAWA stuff, I really have to say that something about some men opposing women's protection from violence under the law really rubs me the wrong way. It's kind of creepy; I don't know. And VAWA is American, by the way. :)
I don't think you need to dig too deeply to find the old addage, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease". Women, with their movement, began loudly criticizing the establishment, calling them out on their 'unfair' practises. So what we have today is a form of reverse discrimination.men are the ones who are now treated unfairly. Another addage..."If you build it, they will come". More appropriately for this discussion is, "If you build it, they will come and take over until you have nothing left."
Sorry guys...what used to be a man's world (and one that was working pretty well from my female standpoint), is now a man-made world run by women for their own benefit. Equality shmequality...women don't want it...they want it ALL!
Woah. You sound pretty angry thyere. Just calm down.
But I think until society is okay with the shift of women from working exclusively at home to having jobs, that they do need some extra support. You'd be surprised how much discrimination they can encounter at work.
Perhaps in the next fifty years society will be well-broken into with the changing gender roles and we can do away with extra benefits for women. But for now, they are necesary.
And for the most part, I feel us guys don't need as much sex-specific health care as women, since we will never experience anything nearly as extravagant as childbirth. I do agree on the cancer issue though. prostate problems are quite serious and need more attention.
It appears that the college has the same amount of sport-scholarships for both genders, which seems just enough to me. If of this a disproportionate percentage of the male scholarships goes to football, it does not have to do so much with gender bias, but with football bias. If football was played by women to the same extend as by men, there would be the same lack in female scholarships for for other sports as well.
Colleges do spend more money on women's scholarships. That is mostly because more women than men enroll in colleges. - Some universities already contemplate programs to entice more men to enroll. So yes, universities do consider male rights as just as important as female rights.
On the shorter terms in jail: Women generally commit less crimes than men, especially if it comes to violent crimes. The shorter average time in jail might be related to the lower percentage of women committing violent crimes that call for long prison terms.
Because it's pretty true.
Do Muslim women have permission to throw rocks at men if they think they are exposing too much skin or hair?
Do men have to look up to the women when they get the job at a CEO company, even if their resumes are exactly the same?
Are women portrayed to be the strongest on a stranded island when a ship or plane crashes, even though it's statistically incorrect?
Do men have to deal with ANYTHING us women do?
NO. Not in the slightest. Feminists feel that the world is degrading towards women because it's TRUE. Face the facts. Men rule this world, and it's completely wong.
Omnibus,
No one ever said men have it so good. You, however, are whiney.
Sincerely,
Your friend allegra
Men and women have equal amounts of scholarships. There you go. Women's scholarships are usually privately funded, so blame the people supplying the money.
Bottom line is this, basicially most of them are hideous miserable hags who could not get a man if they tried.
Now, go and report this again liberal a-holes.
You wrote:
I'm done with feminism is that's the case...
You're telling me that, although you previously accepted the idea that women are human beings, not property, that, because some feminists on this site didn't respond the way you wanted to your absurdly long post, you now reject the idea that women are human beings?
Why do I have such a hard time believing you ever accepted that idea?
As for your screed, you are cherry picking a very few things, out of a universe of relevant material. (Where's most of the money and power? in the hands of men.)
Although there may well be a few nitwits who say all men have it great, no sane person says that.
But those nitwits are not a very good reason to support the re-oppression of women.
I would like you to explain how I, personally, am responsible for scholarship money, and the other things you mention in your post.
Since I'm not, I don't see why you're blaming me for those situations.
Or for what other people who call themselves feminists write, for that matter.
I guess what most suggests that you aren't being honest about not being a sexist is your assumption that all women are identical, and all are responsible for every action by every female.
If you were capable of understanding that humans are human, that each is responsible for themselves, not every member of their various groups, you wouldn't have such problems with people who support the idea that women are human beings.
But you aren't, so you don't.
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