Christian~wicca?
Question:
Many define a Christian quite specifically. They include only those who have repented of their sins, has trusted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and has accepted certain core traditional Christian teachings. (e.g. the Trinity, Incarnation, resurrection of Jesus, virgin birth, heaven, hell, sin, salvation, original sin, the existence of Satan as a living entity, etc.) Many of these teachings are incompatible with Wiccan theology.
Many conservative Christian denominations teach that women should not be in a position of power over a man, either in church, at work, or at home. Such a belief is totally at variance with Wiccan beliefs who generally believe in sexual equality.
Religious conservatives generally believe that homosexuality is unnatural, abnormal, chosen, changeable and intrinsically sinful. Most Wiccans disagree with these beliefs, accepting the findings of human sexuality researchers that a homosexual orientation is normal and natural for a minority of adults. Further, an adult sexual orientation not chosen and cannot be changed.
Many conservative Christians believe that various forms of divination are an integral part of Wicca. Since the Bible contains passages condemning many of the divination techniques which were in use in ancient times, they conclude that there is no room for Wiccan belief within Christianity. They overlook that some forms of divination were condoned by the Bible. One was even used by temple priests. Also, while it is true that some Wiccans engage in divination, not all do.
Wiccans would have to abandon many traditional biblical teachings in order to consider themselves to be Christian. However, millions of Americans already reject major portions of the Bible, and still consider themselves to be Christians. For example, most liberal Christians probably reject certain themes and stories in the Bible as being profoundly immoral and not representing the Will of God. These might include: genocide, human slavery, burning some hookers alive, whipping children with a rod, raping female prisoners of war, execution of non-virgin brides, executing people who work on the Sabbath, executing sexually active persons with a homosexual orientation, executing religious minorities, etc.
Answer:
The Bible on the whole is a good book (no pun intended), but was meant, I think, to be as a guide and not a word-for-word template for the lives of people who follow Christianity. It got changed around alot during it's initial translations, and you can see it getting changed still to this day if you read the modern language versions of it compared to translations even as late as 30 years ago. That's how alot of people have gotten so lost with what to believe Christian-wise.
You know, I realize this is not a question, but a statement, probably being made to some 'Christians' you've had debates with in the past. I personally find that your arguments and points here bring up elements of the Wiccan religion that I did not know. It was a fastinating read. Thank you for the information.
Thank you for the thorough explanation of Wicca. It was informative and intelligent.
You are exactly right about many of the stories in the Bible "not representing the will of God". That's why they're in there. To teach us what could happen if we repeat those mistakes. The events that seem harsh to us, but were in fact ordained of God...well He must have had His reasons. I trust Him.
Coming from a Christian perspective though, it sounds to me like Wicca is a philosophy born from man's best intentions. Very commendable, but not God's plan for humanity.
The way I see it, we have two choices. To intellectualize our way to a conclusion about our beliefs, or throw intellect out the window and trust God.
I've tried it both ways, and my intellect got me no where. Trust in God has been very beneficial.
I do like your post, though. Inquisitive but respectful.
im new to wicca
thank you your in depth view of wicca
There is no such thing as a christian wiccan they are two totaly separate religions. The bible doesn't condemn pagan practices but it does tell us to abstain from them and not to par take in them.
I agree. There are Fundamentalist Christians and then there are Liberal Christians. The Fundies take every word in the Bible and use it to their advantage. They claim to know what God meant by saying something cryptic. Its just not true.
Liberal Chrstians don't make judgement (or at least not as much)
~smiles~ sound points my friend wonder how many will acctually pay heed to them and dude "Jasin
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There is no such thing as a christian Wicca they are two totally separate religions. The bible doesn't condemn pagan practices but it does tell us to abstain from them and not to par take in them. "
i know many Buddhist-Xians Wicca is alot like Buddhism it will fit any mold that it needs to in the case of the Xian-Wiccans it forms a closer frame around would it really means to a Christan. love honnor and trust. seems i read a story about a man one time that spoke of those things alot
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