Employment terminated.. is this in my record?
Question:
Is this in my permanent record? Since then, I've been offered a job somewhere else and some places have not responded. I'm just curious. Also, if I put them down in an application, can the company i'm applying to contact my old company and find out about this. I heard that companies are not allowed to disclose that information about an employee.
is there some sort of HUMAN RESOURCES black list or something? I guess mostly human resource people can answer my questions.
Answer:
Certainly at the place you were fired from it is in your file, perhaps not specifically what you did or maybe so. However no one can have access to that file without your written permission. And if the places you are applying at call the place you were fired from all that place can say is that you no longer work there.
You should fill out a waiver (find one on-line or make your own) asking for your complete personnel file from the place that let you go and then you can see for yourself what is says. Also you may want to call the places you applied to but never heard from and ask if they called this other place and if they did what information was passed on. And if you find out they told them you were fired or why, you are probably looking at a lawsuit.
Yes it is but I wouldn't worry too much about it though. Most people don't.
All they can legally say is they would not hire you back,
good luck.
Companies aren't allowed to give out anything other than hire dates, leave dates, and if they'd rehire you. If a new company asks you about it, you can try explaining it to them. There is no black list. Your records stay with your previous employer.
You won't know until someone cites that as a reason they aren't hiring you. There is no HR black list, but they often do employment reference checks with your previous employer. In most states they can only ask and answer Yes or No questions, but some places volunteer more information than that.
congratulations on getting fired! i think they can only ask your previous employer about the dates in which you were employeed, and your title, and possible the reason you left, but not sure.
On the sopt on the application where it says can I contact a previous employer check the NO box
Yes, it will be on your records, unfortunatedly.
While, they can report on how well you did or did not do at your job, I don't think they can report specifics, just how well you worked, if you showed up for work, things like that. But that being said, I don't think a company would blacklist you persay, but it really might affect your chances at getting a new job, but I still think you would be able to get one, just make sure you follow your new company's policies and procedures.
If you use your old job as a reference on your application they can and will call to see what kind of employee you were. it is very likely going to haunt you but if it was not a serious issue maybe not. they could just tell them that you violated company policy and leave it at that, in which case could be bad for you. good luck.
No there is no blacklist or any type of "permanent record". But if you put donw your company, they can call and ask about you. Most companies will just say that you worked from this date to this date and won't comment of your termination. This is so you never sue them for slander, but that doesn't mean that they can't say anything, they just need to be careful on how they say it. So it is best to leave the company off your list if possible, but if that would be an obvious hole, you don't have much choice.
I live in PA. So your state laws might be different. But all they can say here is 3 things. The date you started. The date you left and your job title. It has been so long since I have applied for a job. But don't sweet it...they can't trash you or you could sue them. Good luck with the new job search!
I don't know where you are from but where I live, past employers are not allowed to say anything negative about you only to verify that you worked where you said you did. So if you don't put down that you were fired, rather that you were laid off, nobody will know.
Call the HR office for your former company and ask them what they tell employers looking for a record.
I do background investigations for a living and companies are all different. Most only provide basic information, like your title, dates you worked there, and location. Some let me see the entire file so I can see exactly why someone was fired/quit.
If the HR office won't help you, call back later (or have a friend call back) and say you are calling about employment verification for _your name_ and ask what type of information they provide.
THE PROBLEM COMES WHEN YOU ARE INTERVIEWED IN YOUR NEXT JOB.
IF THEY ASK YOU WHERE WERE YOU WORKING ?
WHAT WILL YOU ANSWER.
IF YOU TELL THEM THE TRUTH THEY MAY LET YOU IN SEEING YOUR HONESTY.
ANYWAY DO NOT WORRY.
GOOD LUCK.
1st of all sweetie, you never put on your resume the jobs you got terminated from. Make up something and then have a friend with a good job and access to a telephone during business hours cover for you. Oh you have to email me honey! I've been working for seem like centuries and trust me I am the bomb when it comes down to resumes and letters of recommendations! I'm a black woman from NJ. Went to Texas 6 years ago and live there, had about 25 jobs in 6 years, quit about 22, terminated from 3. Came back to NJ last December 2005. Found one temp job got laid off and now I'm working in a plush suite full of stock brokers and they could eat my sh!t. I got my son and my daughter jobs in the past. I burned some bridges in TX but I was born and raised here in NJ and I had letter of recs from both states and every time lately that I go on an interview, I'm either hired immediately or as soon as I get home the telephone is ringing telling me I'm hired! Oh another thing, prayer works too!
if a perspective employer is going to contact your previous employer for a refereance then you should explain first. there is no permanant record but there are blacklists
Don't worry, it's not like high school where the magic "Permanent Record" follows you everywhere. Your new job will have no way of knowing what happened... to a point.
It is illegal to lie on an application (like saying you quit instead of being fired). If you lie, your new company can fire you on the spot, so just put "job terminated." If they give you the option, check that you do NOT want the new company to contact your previous employer. If they don't offer that, then they can contact your old employer.
Some companies have to follow most stringent HR guidelines, but they usually can't ask point-blank why you were fired. They can usually only ask what sort of employee you were, what your strengths and weaknesses are. Your previous employer will generally not offer anything more than a vague mention of "violation of company policy."
Generally it's best to be up front with your new company. If they ask why you left your previous job, tell them what you told us. Be sure to point out that you've learned your lesson about inappropriate humor in the workplace.
YES! because it will reflect in your cv.
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