Do Republicans respect Liberal values? I'm serious, I just don't understand. Please explain.?
Question:
You are Pro-Choice but support the owning of semi-automatic weapons - the fastest cheapest way to kill many people at a time.
You hate Liberals who hate the terrorists as well but you acuse them of being on the same side as them when they are on your side with a different idea on how to fix the problem. Doesn't that make you on the side of the enemy?
What good has come from the war in Iraq? Why am I bad for believing that the American people could have benefitted from 100 billion investment in something else good for our people?
Are you not able to see that we (Liberals) are unhappy because the war in Iraq has made us a weaker country? How is this bad?
Are you not upset that we spend billions on Iraq and never even got the ones behind 9/11 - what started our War with the Middle-East? Why am I a bad anti-American person for this?
Answer:
No, for the most part Republicans do not respect Liberal values. It's a two party system, and most issues have at least two sides. Democrats pick one side, Republicans pick the other.
Based on the way our electoral process is set up only two major parties can exist on a national scale. That means everybody has to be shoehorned into one or the other. So you end up with platforms that appeal to people on some issues but offend others and aren't logically consistent. (E.g. If Republicans are against regulating industry why do they want parental consent and waiting periods for a minor to get an abortion?)
In the first two statements did you really mean Pro-Life, since you mention killing people? Again, it goes with what I said above. It may not be logically consistent to some people to be opposed to abortion yet in favor of the death penalty and war. I personally oppose the death penalty, but many pro-life people put the qualifier "innocent” life. A preborn baby didn't do anything wrong, but a death row inmate killed someone. In most Republican’s mind the child has the right to life but the inmate deserves to die. Republicans want to protect the Second Amendment right to bear arms with no restrictions, even if that means owning an AK-47 or a .50 caliber rife which no civilian should have unless it's permanently sealed in a display case. After all, guns are neutral; it’s people who decide whether to use them for good or evil.
Republicans want to be tough on terrorists. We want to smoke them out, kick their butt, and bring justice through death, whether in war or execution. Most Republicans think your ideas to stop terrorism are naive, weak, pathetic, and repeating the same mistakes that the League of Nations did with Hitler. (I personally partially disagree. I think Nancy Polsei's proposal to search 100% of foreign cargo and secure 100% of our power plants, ports, and airports makes more sense than the Patriot Act.)
On the issue of Iraq: They are no longer under the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. Unfortunately the new government isn't strong enough to run the country yet, so that's why there's chaos in really a small portion of the country. Now I'm not speaking for all Republicans, but ultimately what I would like to see is Iraq to be the second democracy (after Israel) in the region and be a valuable ally in the War on Terror. I don't want to repeat the mistake of Vietnam by leaving the country before the democratic government and its army can support itself and have it run over by anti-American, anti-Israel factions.
I don't see how the Iraq war has made us a weaker country, but I personally wish we had gotten Osama before we took out Saddam. I also don't think you a bad anti-American person so long as you can respectfully criticize the war and the administration. If you don't think it's wise for us to stay in Iraq, okay, but don't make false accusations of the president or compare him to tyrants in world history. (For example I saw a picture of a banner with Hitler and Bush with the words: "Same s--t, Different A--hole." That's disrespectful, unfair, and totally untrue.).
You are saying - very well - what many think. But if I may, you have a couple of mistatements. Republicans are NOT pro-choice. They are pro-life, by and large. Aside from that, though, I am with you. I think the money spent on the war could have been better spent or invested domestically. And as for the war itself...it was an unnecessary war, started under false pretenses. We have created civil war in a country...with the only benefit to ourselves being a destabilizing of a nation with alot of oil. Hmmmm - do you think that was, maybe, the plan all along?
No they don't, and on the other hand they are hypocrites and use them in their everyday lives. They just hate anyone that disagrees with them is all of it in a hand basket.
I can't speak for all Republicans, but I do not respect "liberal values". In fact, I consider the phrase an oxymoron. Abortion KILLS millions more people every year than all small-arms combined (this includes, but is not limited to, semi-automatic machine guns... I own an AR-15 and an SKS, and for what it's worth, I've never killed - nor shot at a human being).
You do make a very good point: Liberals are unhappy, by and large. It has nothing to do with Iraq. 20 years from now, the U.S. will have been long gone from Iraq (we hope), but I'd bet my life's earnings that liberals will still be unhappy.
Your beliefs don't make you anti-American. They do, however, indicate some naivete with regard to geopolitics and the world in general.
A) One has nothing to do with the other, and there are countless lives being SAVED.
B) Weapons don't kill, people do.
C)That is an uninformed opinion, and Cut and Run are not ways to deal with problems.
D)Iraq has been Liberated from and evil dictator, and the economy is doing good. Dow is up, existing homes sales at highest level in 3 years, low unemployment. We could save million$ buy cutting funding on failing social programs.
E)The Dems anti-Bush, create-a-scandal-a-day, sleeping with the enemy type behavior is what makes a Country look weak. Liberals are always unhappy.
F)We promised Iraq we would help them rebuild and we are. Saddam was an evil dictator. WMD's HAVE been found in Iraq.
I don't think you are a bad American, just uninformed. You are making talking points about everything the liberal media has been spewing since day one.
A wise man once wrote, a matter always seems true until the other side is heard.
"You hate Liberals ...", as a point of fact I don't. Over simplification, on both sides, and inflammatory Left-Right accusations are the very reasons the debate seems to have broken down.
-Try listening to the other side. I'll read the Atlantic or New republic from time to time to see what the thinking Left is thinking. I recommend trying the National Review or Standard for you. It's good to listen to those who disagree with us, as we might be wrong.
-So please, don't just be another voice in the angry crowd. Read, listen, Debate with an open mind.
They don't think liberals have values.
not everyone in the world supports this war.as I see it, the only one's that do support it is the government and in all honesty they have no idea what they are doing..this is a war that should never have begun.I believe that all troops from every country should be brought back home.
great question and i agree with everything you just said.honestly i don't think half of them even really fully understand our values...they insult us without even knowing our stance or trying to understand our ideals.
many of them just dismiss them without even hearing an argument, it's ridiculous...especially after i sit there and listen to their side, but they aren't willing to listen to mine...
The whole premise of your question is flawed. Liberals by definition have no values but I will address each point you make.
Conservatives are pro life not all republicans are. We believe it is wrong to kill the unborn and value life. War is often a necessary evil to maintain our way of life but we only go to war as a last resort.
Conservatives believe in the Constitution and the ammendments. The right to keep and bear arms is clearly stated in the 2nd ammendment. We believe in all of the ammendments and don't pick and choose which ones are convenient to us as liberals do.
We do not hate all liberals. I have known several that I can reasonably argue with. It is the ones that are actively pursuing that defeat of this country that we hate.
As far as Iraq goes the Iraqis are free now. I know since I spent a little time there myself. They are not happy with the current situation but at the same time they are very happy that saddam and his boys are taking a dirt nap.
Liberals are always unhappy. It is in your nature to be unhappy about everything. You are very depressing people that think this country is the source of all the evil in the world. Also we are not weaker by showing force. Force is the only thing the evil understand in this world.
We did get the ones behind 9-11 - they are spending quality time in Gitmo. As far a bin laden goes he is a non factor now. There is not much he can do hiding in his cave in Pakistan.
Luckily the group you are asking this question to are a dying group. Most people dismiss their Roderic. They tend to dilute themselves with made up facts (i.e. more babies are killed each year by abortion than people by guns). That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a long time but they believe it. They like certain parts of the Constitution but not all of it. They never talk about the bill of rights, they fell they are the only ones that have rights. And all they care about is themselves. Don't worry about them they will disappear soon and a new world order will bring enlightenment.
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